Therefore, that is extremely labour-intensive. There is a lot to be said for really moving from a culture of secrecy to a culture of openness. I think there are good intentions from the government in that respect. I've certainly been at the table with deputy ministers this past year. I hadn't before. I think there is a good intention, but I don't think that it has really made its way through the various levels of the government.
On May 4th, 2017. See this statement in context.