I don't think meaningful consent is real. I don't think you can have informed consent in the environment we're living in, and we won't have it in the future, because meaningful consent is informed consent, and you can't be informed of things you can't understand. The best-intentioned industry players cannot explain things like how the Facebook algorithm decided to allow people to place ads for “Jew haters” as a group. They can't explain that.
Informed consent, then, becomes a very problematic concept. That is why I said all of those other things, and why I said that if you're so wed to informed consent, then I think you have to start thinking about measures that.... The thing about it is that if you say, okay, if they're 13 to 17, we'll have their parents' consent, but their parents won't understand it. I don't understand it. It really isn't isolated to young people. Nobody understands exactly what's happening with their data.
To me, what we have to be thinking about is what we're going to do about regulating the collection, retention, and use of data instead of trying to pretend that we're going to have this individual consent model in a situation where people cannot understand what they're consenting to.