I don't really have any interest in the motive or any speculation on what the motive might be. I can only talk about the effect of the application of exclusions.
What we see, and have seen over many years, is an application of what should be narrowly defined and specific exclusions being applied very broadly to exclude from disclosure anything relevant in any way to the interests of a third party or private party engaged in some sort of public interest function with the government when, in our view, that language should be subject to a test of real harm.
As I was mentioning with our specific case, the 613 pages of blacked-out pages—and that's not the only case; we have multiple examples of that—we believe that there's information in the public interest contained in that information that is being excluded, yet it is not being subjected to a test of real harm and is not subject to the public interest override. There have been many people before you at this committee talking about the issue of a lack of a strong public interest override in this act, and we agree with them.