Thank you.
It was alluded to earlier that perhaps the minister forgot that he hadn't paid $40,000, which I think raises the question of competence, particularly in a finance minister. It's a pretty material oversight. However, we have so far admitted to the travel, which is section 12; the duty to disclose, which is section 31; and section 23, which is gifts.
Particularly with regard to the travel, with the private trip essentially, we don't know whether it was chartered or whether it was a public flight. We don't have those details yet. If that was the case, would that then cross the threshold into bribery? Would that then become material enough that we would have a breach of trust in a way that—and I should be reminded, because you brought this up earlier, that this is for the public service—a public servant who does not comply with the requirements of this code is subject to the appropriate disciplinary action, up to and including the termination of employment. This is what we set for the public sector, yet right from the top we have a slippery slope that could go from potential conflict of interest, which I think, given some of the admissions that have already been made publicly, there's no real need for an investigation into at this point; they've already admitted to this.
If it comes back that this was on private chartered flights, regardless of the disclosure or failure to recuse, and it comes back that all these other subsections have been violated, do you think this would then be the prime opportunity to talk about them having lost the public trust and, therefore, being required to step down?
Or—I'll go further, Madam Chair—do you think that part of the reforms should include that the act—and you'll note the act is very weak on enforcement—should forget about the $500 and have this actually as an outcome of the enforcement on this criteria?