What I was getting at is that there have been a lot of questions, at least a few from the other side of the table, that were asking, after your second finding, whether the penalty should be greater. I respect the fact that you're basically saying that it's not the position of the Conflict of Interest Commissioner to make that assessment and it would have to be a criminal charge, etc. You got that point across.
I'm trying to differentiate between the seriousness of repercussions for somebody who intentionally did something versus somebody who didn't. What's your opinion on that?