It's difficult. The former commissioner issued a report on this as well, and I agree with her. Those apps should not be used for government business. We emphasize that when we meet with public servants, with their leaders, and with deputy ministers, but it's really difficult to know when it is used or not. Often it's by mistake that we find out.
If we see evidence that there was something other than emails—and personal emails are another one—we will push and get that information. Again, I have all kinds of tools. I'll order the production of tapes. I can order the production of documents. I can ask that they research these texts and these other apps, but it's one of those things, and either we're lucky or we're not. We hope that the government is implementing its policy of not using these apps for business records.