Thank you.
My final question is on your really important point about bypass routes for certain actors. We see in the documents that Craig Kielburger contacts Minister Ng directly and Minister Chagger directly. He contacts Minister Bill Morneau and talks about his family. Then those ministers contact their public servants.
However, Craig and Marc Kielburger were not registered to lobby. Their government relations director did not register to lobby. Mr. Kielburger says they didn't need to lobby because they were technically volunteers. They were volunteers who had the power to fire their own board of directors.
You say we have rules in place, and I agree, but how do we ensure that people like the Kielburgers can't use their friendships with key ministers to get these deals off the ground when there's no respect for the lobbying code?