I'm really interested in what you said about the issue of bypass routes that can be used by certain actors. We have a lobbying code, and it's very strong, and we also have the Conflict of Interest Act.
However, we noticed in the documents that Craig Kielburger reached out directly to Minister Ng. He reached out directly to Minister Chagger. He wrote personally to Bill Morneau. He bypassed the normal systems, but he wasn't registered to lobby, and because of his close relations with them, they were very comfortable.
That project and his ideas were then given to the civil service, yet he was not registered to lobby. He says technically he's just a volunteer. Do you think we need to have clearer rules about lobbying? With clearer rules, these things would have been recorded, there would have been a better process and the civil servants, I think, would not have been compromised in the WE scandal.