This is a routine meeting, but you get into this meeting, you get onto Zoom, and there's Mr. MacNaughton. He's a very well-known person in government. You know that he's the former ambassador to the United States. You know about the ethics act. You know about the rules. Did it ever cross your mind that maybe you shouldn't be in that Zoom meeting?
On December 11th, 2020. See this statement in context.