He insisted there was nothing there. “You can do all you want. You can be ugly.” He used the word “ugly”. Again, I had a hard time getting a word in edgewise. I felt as if I had to repeat myself over and over. I felt that it was I who was on the defensive.
Can you repeat the question? I'm sorry. Did I feel that he had any concern about money?
He just kept insisting that there was nothing there. “There's nothing there. You're not going to find it. Craig and Marc Kielburger are done. They're done. Nobody will answer their phone calls. They're done. So what are you even doing here? This is just ugly. You're just ruining your son's legacy. You're ruining my brother's legacy.”