Thank you.
My concern is that I find that the wording of this is presupposing an outcome already, in that it says that “the only communication he had with the Kielburgers was the already public LinkedIn communication”. We don't know if that was the only communication, so I think it's problematic.
I also agree with my colleague that the clerk's writing to Mr. Shugart to determine.... Mr. Shugart is off, so we don't want to be writing to Mr. Shugart. We want that document.
What we haven't discussed is the motion to have Mr. Ben Chin—Ben Chin we've talked about—or Rick Theis or Mr. Singh appear. I'm not sure why we're asking them at this point, but it is in the motion. If we're going to ask them, I would like to have reason to ask them. If my Liberal colleagues want to exclude them, I'd like to have reason to exclude them. We haven't actually discussed those other two.
Mr. Ben Chin appears to us because of the testimony from last week with Mr. Craig Kielburger. I have read many times the 5,000 pages of documents. I think there's a pretty clear pattern of how this deal developed. What struck me about the LinkedIn message and the response that we heard in the testimony is that I didn't find Mr. Kielburger's testimony credible. There may be other reasons that he contacted Mr. Ben Chin to sort of give him the big thumbs-up that they'd been awarded the contract. It might have been a case of his trying to procure further favours in the Prime Minister's Office further down the road, but I didn't think Craig Kielburger's response was credible, which is why Mr. Chin's name has been brought forward.
We haven't had a discussion on Mr. Rick Theis and whether he needs to appear.
Mr. Singh is in the documents—I think in reference to the April 20 meeting with Sofia Marquez—but I don't know what he offers to change what we already have in the documents.
I have a problem with the subamendment because it precludes the possibility that Mr. Chin may have had other conversations; that's problematic. It asks Mr. Shugart, who is not in a position to turn over those documents...and we need those documents. I'm still not sure where we're standing with Mr. Theis and Mr. Singh.