Evidence of meeting #25 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Bloc
Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC
You are right, Mr. Fergus: it is not an apology. I have no intention of apologizing.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Monsieur Fortin, if you'd like to interject one last time, I would then like to move the business of the committee forward.
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Bloc
Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC
I am ready to proceed to the vote, Mr. Chair.
I do not know where you stand, but I have nothing else to say. I will not apologize and I do not see why I should. I said I have no patience for childishness, period.
If Mr. Fergus feels the shoe fits, let him wear it.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Thank you, Monsieur Fortin. Thanks for the clarification.
Colleagues, it would be helpful if we could debate the matter that's before our committee in terms of the amendment and the subamendment being proposed by Mr. Fergus.
I would now ask Mr. Fergus to read into the record the text that he is proposing.
1:15 p.m.
Liberal
Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Mr. Chair, I really want to honour your request, but once again, I feel that what Mr. Fortin said is really inexcusable.
I do not understand why he is insisting on it. An experienced man like him—
1:15 p.m.
NDP
Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON
I think what we're seeing here is childish behaviour, because we have serious issues to deal with. A colleague has been asked to withdraw his remark and he's withdrawn it. We've been asking Mr. Fergus to come up with the language of the subamendment. He either has it or he doesn't. To continue to try to pick a fight with Mr. Fortin is to me not credible. We have wasted a lot of time here. We've been told time and time again by the Liberals that they want to get down to work, so let's get down to work.
Does he have wording of a motion that actually may be in order? It may not be in order, and that's what I want to know. Does he actually have language for the motion? Can he get to that, please?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Yes. I've asked Mr. Fergus to do that several times.
Mr. Fergus, we're anticipating the—
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Liberal
Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Mr. Chair, to be fair, are you telling me that there was a withdrawal of the comment? I did not hear that.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
That was my understanding. That was how I heard the conversation, Mr. Fergus.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
That's how I heard it, Mr. Fergus.
We'll turn to you for the subamendment.
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Liberal
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
That's how I understood the translation. That's what I heard.
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Conservative
Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON
I have a point of order, Chair.
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Conservative
Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON
Chair, you ruled that the matter was closed. The member opposite is required to speak to the motion at hand. On a question of relevance, the amendment is being debated unless there is a motion being put forward that will then be ruled on by the chair as to whether or not it is in order. If we're not discussing those things, and the point of order has been ruled closed by the chair, then any other comments would be out of order.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
I appreciate that.
Mr. Fergus, you can understand there is a desire by the committee to move forward to a vote. If you'd like to propose a subamendment, I would encourage you to do it now. Otherwise we can proceed—
1:20 p.m.
Liberal
