Evidence of meeting #26 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was know.

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2:30 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

There's not a motion on the floor.

2:30 p.m.

Liberal

Brenda Shanahan Liberal Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC

I'm sorry—

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

No, there's not.

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Order, colleagues.

2:30 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Let the chair speak, please.

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

There is a motion that has been brought forward.

I am asking if it's the will of the committee to hear from Mr. Rodriguez, to allow him to provide his testimony, and for members to ask and get answers to their questions. Is there willingness to do that?

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Yes, absolutely.

2:30 p.m.

Liberal

Brenda Shanahan Liberal Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC

Chair, only if Mr. Fortin retracts his motion.

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Mr. Poilievre.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Excellent. You know, we can debate the other matters later on. There's no reason why we can't look at Mr. Fortin's motion tomorrow or after 5 p.m. today, or some other time, and all other matters related to Mr. Li. All of that can be done later. As I understand, we're not debating any of those things now. We're now moving to Mr. Rodriguez. Strangely, it seems that the Liberals don't want to hear from him after insisting that he be here.

Therefore, what I would suggest is that we simply go to Mr. Rodriguez, let him have his opening statement and we can begin, and if there are any motions that need to be withdrawn quickly so they can be reintroduced later on, so as not to keep our witness waiting any longer, then we should do that.

Let's get down to business. We obviously have a bunch of Liberals here who have something to hide, or else they wouldn't be trying to shut down the debate—

2:30 p.m.

Liberal

Brenda Shanahan Liberal Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC

Point of order, Chair.

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Mr.—

2:30 p.m.

Liberal

Brenda Shanahan Liberal Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC

Point of order, Chair. Mr. Fergus had the floor.

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Liberal

Han Dong Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Point of order.

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Colleagues, order.

Madam Clerk, can you mute all mikes other than mine?

2:30 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Mute the mikes.

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Colleagues, order. Order.

I'm not sure that Mr. Poilievre ever got to asking for unanimous consent—

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

You have it.

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

—to adjourn debate on the motion that was being debated, but he had—

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Liberal

Han Dong Liberal Don Valley North, ON

I don't even know which motion that is, Chair. I'm so lost. There are just so many interjections.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Mr. Dong, order. Order.

Colleagues—

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Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

2:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Mr. Sorbara.

2:30 p.m.

Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

To all of my colleagues, obviously we are gathered this afternoon to speak to and to hear from the witness we have in front of us, Mr. Rodriguez, our honourable House leader on our side. I would like to hear from Mr. Rodriguez. I think it behooves all of us to raise our hands, to speak when the chair recognizes us, and when there's a point of order to be made by the honourable members, let's make our points of order. Let's get that across, but I think we can all do it in a very professional and mature manner.

Mr. Chair, I turn it back over to you. That was my intervention. I think we need to move forward in a very professional manner.

Thank you, sir.