Evidence of meeting #32 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
A video is available from Parliament.
3 p.m.
NDP
Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC
Mr. Chair, it was meant to be a motion to suspend, not to adjourn. Sorry if I misspoke.
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Conservative
3 p.m.
Liberal
Brenda Shanahan Liberal Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC
Don't we need unanimous consent if we're going to be changing the motion?
I call the vote on the motion on the floor.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Madam Shanahan, that's not your role, but I appreciate your intervention.
Mr. Bachrach, I just want clarification as to what exactly you're moving in terms of your motion. I didn't intend to put words in your mouth. I do apologize if I did that. Mr. Bachrach, let's be clear on what you intended.
3 p.m.
NDP
Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC
My apologies. I would just point out that since we convened this public meeting, unless I'm mistaken, we've heard from only one member of the committee, and the goal of this meeting is to move forward with the committee's business—
3:05 p.m.
Liberal
3:05 p.m.
NDP
Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC
My apologies if I misspoke, Mr. Fergus, but it does seem that we've heard a fair bit from Mr. Fergus, and if we're able to move to a vote on the motion that we were discussing, Mr. Fortin's motion, I think that would be a productive use of our time. However, recognizing that under these unique circumstances when we're meeting together in a virtual format, and I know that the House resources are extremely stretched at this time, and recognizing that the scheduled time for the meeting ended five minutes ago, my intention was simply to suspend the meeting so that we could pick up and discuss Mr. Fortin's motion at the next opportunity when the House resources are available to us.
3:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
This is a motion to suspend. We'll move to a motion on suspension. Let's—
3:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
I'm getting some questions.
Madam Lattanzio, is this a point of order?
3:05 p.m.
Liberal
3:05 p.m.
Liberal
Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
I understood very clearly from my colleague that it was a motion to adjourn. Then I understand that's a non-debatable motion. Can we proceed in that fashion, Mr. Chair? Then, depending on what the vote is, we can—
3:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Ms. Lattanzio, I will look back in the blues at a later date, but I worry that I put words into my colleague's mouth when I was seeking clarification. I have allowed him to clarify, instead of my clarifying what his position was, and so I will review that. I felt that it would be abundantly clear what his intention was, so—
3:05 p.m.
Liberal
Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
Shall we suspend until you have the opportunity to look into the matter, Mr. Chair, before we start voting on something that perhaps we're not supposed to be voting on? We'll give you that opportunity to do so, Mr. Chair.
3:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
I'm going to allow the member to clarify, once and for all, what his intention was with this motion.
Mr. Bachrach.
3:05 p.m.
NDP
Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC
As I just stated very clearly, my intention was to suspend the meeting. I apologize if the word that I used.... I think I was fairly clear in the lead-up to my remarks that the intention was to recognize the clock and to respect the resources of the House that are made available to us.
Now it seems as though this argument that is occurring is on a fairly pedantic point of procedure and the intention that my intention should be reflected in the motion. That said, if you will give me the floor afterwards, we could vote on a motion to adjourn, as Ms. Lattanzio has suggested. If that motion was defeated, I would make a motion to suspend. I offer that as a compromise.
3:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Okay. I'm probably more confused than I was to begin with here, but it seems as though there is a desire to move forward with the vote to adjourn the meeting, and if not, then we will continue with the speaking order as we have it laid out.
Madam Clerk, will you now move to the vote on the motion to adjourn the meeting?
3:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Mr. Fergus, I will make this very clear. What we are voting on is the—
3:05 p.m.
Liberal
Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
No, I was going to just suggest this. Mr. Bachrach has offered an option. We don't want to waste anybody's time. I'm sorry he used the wrong word, but he did and so be it. Let's just go straight to his desire to move to suspend.
