Yes. It's too bad that we need to even consider order-making power when I would hope that the attitude would be to presume privacy and to presume that privacy matters for Canadians. Obviously, over the four years or so that I've served on this committee, that is not the case.
Whether it's order-making power or when there is non-compliance, I'm curious where penalties, proportionality.... What would you recommend as the solution to ensure that ultimately, at the end of the day, this is not just a recommendation or a Treasury Board mandate that gets ignored, with nothing happening to those who wilfully ignore what could be the privacy rights of Canadians?