One of the frustrations I have—and I know the Honourable Jody Wilson-Raybould also suggested this—is that in her role she was both the client and the solicitor. In fact, that is one of the challenges we have—a government that consistently claims both client and solicitor privilege on all matters. It claims cabinet confidence on all matters.
That is my opinion, by the way. I'm not putting that onto you.
When dealing with a scenario in which the institution under investigation is both the client and the solicitor, by virtue of its nature, how do you navigate getting any kind of information from it?