Anita Anand at the Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics Committee

I think it's important to note that we are taking this extremely seriously by referring cases to the RCMP whenever fraud is uncovered, and that is exactly what we will continue to do.

I, as Treasury Board president, do not have jurisdiction over the referral of those cases. I introduced the horizontal audit that we will be undertaking, and there will be an update to the manager's guide—