John Brassard at the Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics Committee

Yes. Procedurally, we cannot move anything further. We have a subamendment. We cannot move another subamendment.

I hope it's clear among the committee what Mr. Green has proposed in his subamendment, and that is to remove the Ethics Commissioner—or defer—and allow for the other witnesses, including the minister, to appear.

I have Mr. Fisher. Go ahead, Mr. Fisher.