Evidence of meeting #122 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was randy.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Konrad von Finckenstein  Commissioner, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner
Lyne Robinson-Dalpé  Director, Advisory and Compliance, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Thank you.

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Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

—because it would have been a breach of my responsibilities—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Thank you, Mr. Boissonnault.

Mr. Green, go ahead for two and a half minutes.

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NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Minister, when was the last time you had a conversation with Kirsten Poon?

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Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

It was earlier this week. We are friends. We've known each other for 15 years.

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NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

You chat. How frequently would you suggest you are in communication with Ms. Poon?

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Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

Depending on the time of year or what's going on in our friend circle, we would communicate a couple of times a month, perhaps, if not more.

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NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Ms. Poon is a registered lobbyist.

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Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

She is no longer a registered lobbyist. My understanding is that she ceased to be a lobbyist in June 2022.

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NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

You received payments from her prior to that.

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Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

That is not true. What happened is that, for work that I did while I was a private citizen, we made sure that all of the dealings that I had as a private citizen were provided to the Ethics Commissioner—

11:50 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

When was the last payment you received from Ms. Poon?

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Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

Mr. Green, you know there's a process for that, and that information is with the Ethics Commissioner. The Ethics Commissioner indicated—

11:50 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Are you refusing to answer a basic question, Randy, that would help provide some light on this topic?

When was the last time you received money from her?

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

No monies were received by any company that I'm responsible for from Ms. Poon in 2024.

11:55 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

That wasn't the question I asked. When was the last time you received money? Was it 2023 or 2022? When was it?

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Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

Mr. Green, that matter is with the conflict of interest commission. I provided everything to them, and the Ethics Commissioner has said that there's no need to look into my affairs.

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NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Well, that's great. We'll talk to him next and certainly look at the loopholes that are in that.

Why did you decide to have a deferred payment arrangement?

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Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

Mr. Green, that is a relationship that was done while I was a private citizen. I shared all of that information with the Ethics Commissioner. The Ethics Commissioner has made it very clear that I have not—

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NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Did you not receive money while you were a private citizen?

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Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

—that there's no need to look into my business affairs.

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NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Did you not receive payment while you were a private citizen?

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Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

I received income as a private citizen while I was making a living as a business person, yes.

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NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

At some point you decided on a deferral agreement. When did you make that decision?

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Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

Mr. Green, that information has been provided to the Ethics Commissioner. The Ethics Commissioner has looked at my business affairs and said there's no need to look into them.