As a person on this ethics committee and a proud New Democrat, I share that this is not the case, and I just say, Randy, that your testimony today has not helped you out.
Thank you.
Evidence of meeting #122 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was randy.
A recording is available from Parliament.
NDP
Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
As a person on this ethics committee and a proud New Democrat, I share that this is not the case, and I just say, Randy, that your testimony today has not helped you out.
Thank you.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative John Brassard
Thank you, Mr. Green.
I am going to limit it to three-minute interventions at this point, and I apologize to the committee for that. We're going to Mr. Brock, followed by Mr. Housefather, and that will conclude the time we have. That will take us to 12:06, which is roughly the time...we started, not taking into account many of the interruptions we had.
Mr. Brock, I give you three minutes. Go ahead, sir.
Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
Thank you, Chair.
With respect, Minister, I share MP Green's latter comments that your testimony has not been helpful. In fact, not only are you disrespectful, you are exhibiting traits that, in my old career, I would classify as a lying witness. You've been evasive—
Conservative
Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
You have the inability to tell the straight facts and to tell the straight goods, Minister. There lacks the ring of truth in what you have to say.
Liberal
Conservative
Liberal
Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC
Mr. Brock's language is definitely unparliamentary. He needs to withdraw it, and he needs to apologize.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative John Brassard
He used a different context. I'm going to allow him to do it and ask him to continue.
You have a couple of minutes, Mr. Brock. Go ahead.
Liberal
Conservative
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
—I've heard in the House, many times, the Speaker say that you can't say indirectly what you can't say directly, and that is exactly what Mr. Brock just did. We cannot call each other liars or...providing untruths to Parliament.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative John Brassard
I appreciate that. I think Mr. Brock understands your point of order.
I ask him to continue for the next couple of minutes.
Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
Canadians are watching. They pay particular attention every time a minister appears at committee. What you've done, sir, is just displayed a complete lack of respect for policies and procedures at this committee, leaving aside the evasiveness of your responses and, clearly, the lack of ring of truth, as I've indicated.
On the issue of what was reported this morning on Global News, did you take it upon yourself to reach out to your former partner and ask for clarification as to who this other Randy was?
Liberal
Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB
Mr. Brock, on that particular point, I have no operational role—
Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
Yes or no, sir, did you reach out?
I have three minutes.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative John Brassard
Mr. Brock, just allow the minister to respond to the question. I know we're on short timelines here, but please allow Mr. Boissonnault to respond to that.
Go ahead.