Evidence of meeting #125 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was anderson.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kirsten Poon  As an Individual
Stephen Anderson  As an Individual

12:05 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

I can certainly talk to the—

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

It would provide definitely clarity—

12:05 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

A hundred per cent.

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

—that your business relationship ended with Randy Boissonnault in September of 2021 and that the Randy that you claim is an autocorrect is actually some other individual.

That name, in order to protect that individual, you are unable to provide right now.

12:05 p.m.

As an Individual

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

I just want to get this again, one more time. You have had no business or personal relationship with Mr. Boissonnault since September of 2021, just before he was elected.

12:10 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

That's correct.

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

Thank you.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Thank you.

We have time for two and two. I haven't got anybody on the list.

Mr. Brock, am I going to you? Okay.

Mr. Naqvi will be after that.

You have two minutes.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Mr. Anderson, it's time to stop playing games. It's time for your come-to-Jesus moment and to be honest. It was very difficult for you to admit that you lied to Global News. You panicked. I don't know why you would panic at that earliest opportunity other than to suggest that you were protecting your friend Randy Boissonnault—Minister Randy Boissonnault.

At all material times, pursuant to emails and other documentation reviewed by Global News—that you lied to—it was always Ghaoui's understanding that when you referenced Randy, it was a reference to Minister Boissonnault. You had told Ghaoui on a number of occasions that Randy Boissonnault was a partner in GHI and a public official. This was confirmed by Ghaoui to Global News. Now, clearly you're not going to say that they are lying, because this is information that Ghaoui received from you. The only one who's lying right now is you.

I'm trying to understand why you insist on continuing to lie to protect Minister Boissonnault other than some perhaps financial arrangement between the two of you. On that $500,000 you pocketed, you had no intention of delivering the goods. You gave back, what, $10,000 of that? You've never paid back that $500,000, have you?

Answer the question: Did you pay it back?

12:10 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

No, you're mistaken when you say—

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Did you pay it back—

12:10 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

You're mistaken when you say—

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

—yes or no?

12:10 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

It's not a yes-or-no answer.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Then I'll move on.

How much of that $500,000 went to Randy Boissonnault?

12:10 p.m.

As an Individual

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Zero.

12:10 p.m.

As an Individual

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

On the autocorrect, whose name were you trying to say that either your Apple device or your Samsung device was changing to Randy? Who were you trying to say that was a partner?

12:10 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

You are referring to an individual that worked in our office—

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

No, sir. No. You referenced a partner.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Okay—

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

You've identified already that you had only one partner in your lifetime with GHI.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Mr. Brock.