Evidence of meeting #125 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was anderson.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kirsten Poon  As an Individual
Stephen Anderson  As an Individual

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

In 2022 it was solely me: I was the one making decisions. However, we were working with our accountants, as well as with our bankers and shipping and logistics.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

The text reads, "I am telling you, we are not allocating like this, please reach out and see what the reason is now, you assured me this morning this was done first thing. Be available in 15 for a partner call."

You were being directed, I think it's safe to say, to join a partner call. Who would have been the partner at that time, sir?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

I disagree with.... I agree with the context of what you're saying, but I would say that if you look at all communications—which I've offered to this committee—

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Mr. Anderson, I've had an accountant before, and an accountant would never, in a client-business relationship, speak to me that way in a text, sir. Who were you reporting to? Who was the other principal?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

I was reporting to no one else.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

It reads, “Be available in 15 for a partner call.” Do you agree that the text message is a valid text message, yes or no?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

I agree. What you're saying, however, is you're insinuating that I was reporting to Randy Boissonnault.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I'm not insinuating; I'm stating, quite frankly, that the text, objectively.... I'm here, just objectively looking at this, and I don't find your testimony credible, sir, and I'll tell you why. It's because it reads, “Be available in 15 minutes for a partner call.” Only a partner or a principal in a dynamic, in that kind of communication style, could demand you to be on a call. Is that not a safe, objective statement to make?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

I would say from your question, yes, but Minister Boissonnault was never involved in 2022.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Who was the other...? What partners did you have after that?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

In 2022, with Global Health Care Solutions, there were five that we were managing within the business.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

How many of them were named Randy?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

There was no Randy involved with Global Health Care Solutions.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

What about the other company?

Stephen Anderson

Global Health Imports, there was a Randy; Randy Boissonnault was involved until September of 2021, when he stepped away—

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Did Mr. Boissonnault maintain his 50% share? I've heard you use very specific language. You said he was not operational in his role. Was he still a fiduciary on the company? Was he still receiving dividends?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

He didn't receive a penny after that?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

After 2021, no.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay.

It's your testimony today that an autocorrect was the cause of all this confusion. Is that what you're...?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

I am saying that, yes, I will certainly give the information and the person's name, if the committee wants it, in camera. It is—

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

You seemed to know pretty clearly where Mr. Barrett was going with his line of questioning. I would put it to you that, to me, objectively, it would seem that you are validating the legitimacy of those text messages. Those are real text messages, correct?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

Broken sporadically, but they are text messages to Malvina Ghaoui, yes.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Right.

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Mr. Green.