That's all second-hand. That's all hearsay. You've come here to testify on behalf of CTV, and you didn't actually take the time yourself, in what you describe as an incredibly serious incident, one that was very embarrassing to the network. Why would you have not personally taken the time to meet with these two people to understand?
Have you reviewed the previous footage of this reporter and of this producer to check to see whether they did this on any other occasion? Have you gone back to previous footage?