Evidence of meeting #135 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was content.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jeanette Patell  Director, Government Affairs and Public Policy, Canada, Google Canada
Rachel Curran  Head of Public Policy, Canada, Meta Platforms Inc.
Lindsay Hundley  Global Threat Intelligence Lead, Meta Platforms Inc.
Steve de Eyre  Director, Public Policy and Government Affairs, TikTok Canada
Wifredo Fernández  Head of Government Affairs, United States of America and Canada, X Corporation
Justin Erlich  Global Head of Policy Development, TikTok

Justin Erlich Global Head of Policy Development, TikTok

Yes, we are.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

The last question is the same, and it is for X.

Are you a signatory to the EU Code of Practice on Disinformation?

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Head of Government Affairs, United States of America and Canada, X Corporation

Wifredo Fernández

No, we are not.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Why?

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Head of Government Affairs, United States of America and Canada, X Corporation

Wifredo Fernández

We have a different approach, as I've laid out. It's around Community Notes, a decentralized approach that puts power in users' hands to add context that they would feel would be helpful, rather than a traditional fact-checking program.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Who is the majority shareholder and chair of X?

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Head of Government Affairs, United States of America and Canada, X Corporation

Wifredo Fernández

It's Mr. Elon Musk.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

What percentage share does he have?

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Head of Government Affairs, United States of America and Canada, X Corporation

Wifredo Fernández

I don't know. I'd have to get back to you on that.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Is it 80% ? Would that ring a bell, Mr. Fernández?

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Head of Government Affairs, United States of America and Canada, X Corporation

Wifredo Fernández

I'm not sure. I'd have to get back to you on that.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay.

Well, would you agree that Mr. Elon Musk is the chair of X?

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Head of Government Affairs, United States of America and Canada, X Corporation

Wifredo Fernández

That's correct. He's chair, head of product and chief technology officer.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Then he's also an executive officer of X.

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Head of Government Affairs, United States of America and Canada, X Corporation

Wifredo Fernández

Yes, he leads our product and engineering teams.

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

You stated in previous testimony that X does no political funding. However, as referenced in an NBC News article title, “Elon Musk's misleading election claims have accrued 1.2 billion views on X, new analysis says”, and the subtitle continues, “The nonprofit Center for Countering Digital Hate said [his] debunked claims are spreading widely and don't appear to be subject to X's Community Notes fact-checking system.”

You're not signing on to the EU code and your chair has 1.2 billion views of misleading election claims as a representative of the company. What do you have to say about that?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Go quickly.

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Head of Government Affairs, United States of America and Canada, X Corporation

Wifredo Fernández

No user is above Community Notes. In fact, he has received several. No one at X has the ability to place or remove a Community Note.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Okay, Mr. Caputo, you're up for five minutes—

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I find that very difficult to believe. I find that, in fact, impossible to believe.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

I'm sorry, Mr. Green. Your time is up.

Mr. Caputo, go ahead for five minutes.

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Conservative

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I want to pick up on where.... The Liberals have seemingly taken a study on misinformation and are trying to spread more misinformation.

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

What else is new?

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Conservative

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC

Mr. Fernandez, could you please take a minute to expand on the nature and role of X's legal funding program?

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Head of Government Affairs, United States of America and Canada, X Corporation

Wifredo Fernández

As I've shared before, the goal of the program is to support individuals whose employers have impacted their employment as a result of things they've said on the service.