It's about a major and massive breach of privacy to the average Canadian for whom, by the way, when that happens, there's the kind of pain.... I help process thousands of tax returns for people, and I know that if there's fraudulent work that's happening there, many of these people—seniors, people on fixed incomes—all of a sudden are not getting their OAS or their GIS. They're not getting all their entitlements, not to mention their tax returns.
I'm going to put one last question to you, sir, in this round, and I'm going to ask you to answer it honestly, so that I don't have to move a motion to demand that you provide it to this committee. What is the total amount lost to the public purse, including on bogus payouts on GST and business returns, whether or not it's from the hacked accounts?