Again, it's difficult for me to mention the numbers because we work on a need-to-know basis. For example, if I have colleagues working on the Russia desk, they will not know if I'm working on the China desk and some of the targets I have.
What we know for sure is that we have various foreign countries that have succeeded in recruiting elected officials—municipal, provincial, or federal—and were capable of influence in this way.
We also see at the end of their mandate, cabinet ministers going to work for foreign companies that work directly against the national security and the national interests of Canada. There's a certain concern when some people leave public office, given what they have done during public office and what they do after holding public office.