The more the scandalous behaviour happens, whether it's dishonesty, unethical behaviour, secretive behaviour or waste, the more it becomes routine and the less it becomes news and the more accepted it becomes, as Mr. Cutler was highlighting. That leads to decline. That's why we need these wholesale systemic changes to change the culture, to penalize wrongdoing, to discourage violations of the public's right know, and reverse the trend, which is more and more encouragement of denial of the public's right to know. If these changes are not made, things will just get worse.
