For my final question, Mr. Wernick, one concern that I've certainly found is that decisions are often made beyond the official briefing notes and the official correspondence. It was mentioned before about text messages, phone calls and messaging apps that can circumvent accountability mechanisms like access to information. I've requested audio recordings that were, in fact, promised and I have never received them.
In your unique experience in government, have you ever seen these other fora of communications detracting from the system's ability to ensure that there's that public access to information?