On what's in the news, we saw that with ArriveCAN, the principals of a company called GC Strategies were in almost constant contact with senior officials directly related to their field of business. Again, this is in the public domain through access to information requests. Att one point they were even inviting the most senior person with respect to the business they wanted to do in IT and technology to an after-hours party. There were constant meetings, constant invitations. Should that be considered lobbying?
I mean, that is exactly what.... If you walked out onto Main Street in any of our communities and asked someone, if you could find someone when it's -40°C.... On any other day, if you walked out and there was someone there and you asked them, “Does that sound like lobbying to you?”, they're going to say, “Yes, of course that's lobbying.”