Evidence of meeting #57 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was businesses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Amanda Alvaro  Communications Professional, As an Individual

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

Ms. Alvaro volunteered on my campaign. In 2017, when I was a first-time candidate, she volunteered.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

In which role was that?

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

She did communications and spokesperson work.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

In subsequent campaigns, did you ever pay her for communications work, support work or campaign work?

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

I've never paid Ms. Alvaro for her volunteer work.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay.

In your role as a minister, you noted that your office made a mistake. In fact, we see quite clearly that Mr. Jason Easton's signature is on the procurement contract, yet when your deputy minister was here, he noted that this was not a regular practice.

How often does your chief of staff directly procure contracts on your behalf?

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

In my delegation of authority, there is a limit threshold for the delegation of—

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

That wasn't my question, Ms. Ng.

How often does your chief of staff procure on your behalf, given that your deputy minister and the person responsible for the procurement noted that this is not a typical practice coming out of the minister's office? How often do you do that?

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

It would be in the course of his work in carrying out of the function of running a minister's office.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

How many contracts are you personally procuring on behalf of your ministry?

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

I don't personally procure any contracts.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

How many does Mr. Easton procure on your behalf? It was noted as being out of the ordinary.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

A delegation of authority to a chief of staff is not out of the ordinary. A delegation—

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

That's not what I asked. It's the procurement of contracts in a way that is out of the ordinary. That was the testimony of the procurement department here.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

The delegation of authority allows for a chief of staff to—

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay, Ms. Ng, if you don't want to answer th question, that's fine.

I will go on to the scope of work, because I want to get a clear sense of what the deliverables were.

We know that in the communications support plan submitted in the documents, there were key strategies and deliverables. The first was an overall social media campaign, including hashtags.

What was the outcome of the generated use of those hashtags? How many interactions...or how many times did you use it?

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

I wouldn't be able to tell you specifically how many, but I would say that using a hashtag was simply a means of being able to share more widely under that particular subject to Canadians.

9:15 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Sure. I'll note for the record, and maybe you can confirm, that you didn't use the first two, which are #standingupforsmallbiz and #standingforsmallbiz.

I will note that according to my search, you used #supportforsmallbiz twice. The other hashtags seem to have been adopted from a conference somewhere else in 2017.

In that use of hashtags, you also have, in the scope of work below the MP tool kit,“video questions and answers, including FaceBook, Instagram and Twitter Lives”.

How many of those activities were actually delivered, given this strategic plan?

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

Every week I delivered an “ask me anything” so that any small businesses across the country would be able to ask me anything.

9:15 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Where? Where did you...?

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

It was on Instagram.

9:15 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay. What about Facebook Live? How many live videos did you do there? It said “facilitate and support”, so I want to know how many Facebook Lives did Ms. Alvaro facilitate and support?

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

There were Facebook Lives with a range of social media-type commentaries that I participated in. I couldn't give you a specific number. What I can say was it was very regular, because—

9:15 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

How many Twitter Lives did you have?

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Mary Ng Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

The one Twitter Live that comes to mind would be one with Amber Mac, as an example. She is someone who is a commentator for a range of technology-type businesses. That one comes to mind, but—