I want to go to deterrence, though, because the problem we have in this committee is that the Liberal government keeps getting caught with its hand in the cookie jar, as it were, in multiple scandals and investigations. I would like to get to a place where our legislation is clear, the definitions are crystal clear, the trainings are in place and the consequences are there. At the end of the day, I would tend to agree with my Conservative friends that when you look at the Bev Oda $18 orange juice, there was a time within the House of Commons when these types of transgressions came with real consequences. We seem to be beyond that now.
Would you not agree that if somebody were to be caught in a situation like this—not for an $18 orange juice but for a $16,000 contract without a screen—there should be greater consequences?