Rarely do witnesses agree on something, but Madam Minister, it's interesting, because virtually every witness who has appeared before this committee answered no to the second question.
It's concerning that we have a massive disparity of understanding and, specifically, your report.... I appreciate the fact that you said you are identifying challenges without providing any solutions. Madam Minister, it's been eight years, counting your predecessors in this portfolio, and Canada's access to information system is struggling. It's failing, and it's causing a loss of confidence in our democratic institutions.
Specifically, when it comes to the retention of staff, that's a huge issue. You mentioned some metrics you're doing to help recruit staff to fill those roles. Can you tell me how many staff work in the ATIP system today?