Okay.
Well, as I said, these donors, before they came, when they first approached me.... It was the Université de Montréal that approached me. They wanted a donation to them to commemorate Pierre Trudeau as a student there, and as a teacher, frankly. These donors had given the University of Toronto a medical grant of $800,000—or this donor, Zhang Bin, at that point—to commemorate Bethune.
If you know China, especially if you've travelled through China and dealt with elderly Chinese, you'll know that there are two things they'll tell you: “Canada good, Jianádà hao de” and “Bethune, Trudeau”. They'll say that these were people who were friends of China. We're not talking about the Chinese government; we're talking about the people.
So there was no surprise to me, and it was an honour to have someone say, that they wanted to create scholarships for Pierre Trudeau. Again, the pretenses that they had first started with the Université de Montréal, that they were going there and were going to use the Université de Montréal to somehow influence a non-existent Trudeau government that would come....
My first contact was in December of 2013, when a secretary from the law department wrote me about this. It was a long way from any notion of a Trudeau government, even a Trudeau opposition leader.
Again, the idea that there was set-up here I just think is patently false.