Thank you very much, Commissioner and Mr. Dion, former commissioner.
It's certainly been a very interesting conversation. We've talked a lot about trust and leadership. There have been some questions about the attitude coming from the top.
I'd ask both of you for your feedback on the implications of when violations of the code, as was mentioned.... In fact, Mr. Dion, you mentioned that there have been three Trudeau reports—not one, not two, but three reports. Is the implication that Canadians seem to see a Prime Minister continually—or in this case on at least three occasions—violating the conflict of interest code or being the subject of a pretty serious investigative process? The challenge is that it leads to Canadians' being unable to trust when it seems as though there are no consequences.
Mr. Dion, I'll start with you, and then I'd like feedback as well from Commissioner von Finckenstein.