Mr. Konrad von Finckenstein at the Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics Committee

I'm sorry; it's not a Canadian context, because the context here is two friends. The Greens and the Trudeaus are friends. They have been friends since Mr. Trudeau was a child. He has visited his place. Mr. Green has visited Canada. He's been at 24 Sussex. He's been at Harrington Lake. He is the godfather of one of his brothers. There is a true lengthy friendship here. These are people who have means—