Evidence of meeting #99 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was gift.

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MPs speaking

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Konrad von Finckenstein  Interim Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner
Lyne Robinson-Dalpé  Director, Advisory and Compliance, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Nancy Vohl

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Interim Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

Konrad von Finckenstein

My colleague can answer you.

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Director, Advisory and Compliance, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

Lyne Robinson-Dalpé

It was by email.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

It was by email. Was it one email or more than one?

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Director, Advisory and Compliance, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

Lyne Robinson-Dalpé

It was an exchange, so I—

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Interim Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

Konrad von Finckenstein

We can provide the—

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

You were asking questions. Is that why there was an exchange?

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Director, Advisory and Compliance, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

Lyne Robinson-Dalpé

I cannot tell the content, but there was a back-and-forth.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Were you asking questions? I'm not asking about the questions themselves.

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Director, Advisory and Compliance, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

Lyne Robinson-Dalpé

We were asking for clarification, which might be—

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

How many emails went back and forth?

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Director, Advisory and Compliance, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

Lyne Robinson-Dalpé

I don't recall—

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Was it the Prime Minister's Office or the Prime Minister himself?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Thank you, Mr. Brock.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Can she answer that?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Answer quickly, please.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Was it the Prime Minister's Office or the Prime Minister?

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Director, Advisory and Compliance, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

Lyne Robinson-Dalpé

As the commissioner mentioned before, it was with the Prime Minister's Office.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Thank you, Mr. Brock.

Mr. Bains, go ahead, please, for two and a half minutes.

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Liberal

Parm Bains Liberal Steveston—Richmond East, BC

Thank you.

Commissioner, just to confirm, this issue with the Prime Minister's travel is closed, right?

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Interim Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

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Liberal

Parm Bains Liberal Steveston—Richmond East, BC

There was another question raised today that I am a bit interested in. It was with regard to the issue of foreign actors. There could possibly be the potential for abuse related to travel, maybe travel sponsored by a foreign entity or actors who may wish to gain some leverage over MPs.

Do you share this concern at all in relation to, for example, a Hungarian think tank or something like that?

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Interim Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

Konrad von Finckenstein

Any kind of foreign influence is something that is concerning.

What we do about it is a very difficult question to answer, but we would want to make sure that a decision in Canada is made by a Canadian and is not influenced by foreign factors.

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Liberal

Parm Bains Liberal Steveston—Richmond East, BC

Is this something you've come across? Have you looked into this type of matter?

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Interim Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

Konrad von Finckenstein

No, it's not part of our work.

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Liberal

Parm Bains Liberal Steveston—Richmond East, BC

Is this part of this office's role in any way?