Evidence of meeting #45 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was transparency.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Gear  Executive Director, Policy, Planning and Performance, Priorities and Planning Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Ross  Director, Policy, Planning and Liaison, Priorities and Planning Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON

We're going to make them feel very special.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Yes.

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Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON

I like that for them.

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

Let's do it.

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Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON

Let's keep it.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Ms. Lapointe, you have the floor.

Linda Lapointe Liberal Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

Item (c) says, “Information and Privacy Commissioner of Alberta for two hours”. Does that mean that everyone would appear for two hours? If we're trying to have three witnesses at the same time, I think two hours is too much. We can invite all three of them, but if we don't remove the words “for two hours”, does that mean we'll have everyone for two hours?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

As I understand it, the idea is to invite the three witnesses for one hour each, for each group of witnesses.

Linda Lapointe Liberal Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

That's right, but we just need to amend item (c).

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

If all members agree to eliminate “for two hours”, we can do that. It is agreed among us that all three witnesses will appear for only one hour each, for each group of witnesses.

Linda Lapointe Liberal Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

I think that would be reasonable, but the words “for two hours” should be removed. Otherwise, we're going to be here all fall.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Okay.

Where are we? Are we on the amendment, or are we on the main motion as amended?

The Clerk

There seems to be agreement.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Okay. There's agreement.

The Clerk

I don't want to assume.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

I'm going to assume that there's agreement on the amendment.

(Amendment agreed to)

Do you want to name Quebec too, Gabriel?

Mr. Bonin, do you want us to invite the Quebec commissioner as well? I would really like us to invite the one from Ontario as well.

Linda Lapointe Liberal Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

We could mention all the provinces and territories.

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Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

Yes.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Here we go. We are going to vote on the main motion, with the understanding among us all on where we're at with this.

Do we have consensus on the main motion?

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Mr. Chair, can you just clarify this? Is it the same motion? Did we keep the reference to Alberta, but remove the words “for two hours”, or are we saying all the provinces and territories now rather than just Alberta?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Ms. Chagger wants Alberta to be mentioned. We're going to mention all the commissioners in every province and territory. As I understand it, all the commissioners will testify for only one hour, and there will be three commissioners per group of witnesses.

Is that clear?

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

I understand the need to mention Alberta, based on the rationale of my colleague who moved the original motion. Quebec also has some unique features though that are of interest to the committee. So I don't see why Alberta should be mentioned but not Quebec.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Mr. Bonin, I don't think we should mention any of the provinces, but that's what Ms. Chagger wants. That's where we are right now.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Okay.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

If you want to remove the reference to Alberta and simply say all the commissioners from all the provinces and territories, you can propose an amendment to that effect.