Information & Ethics Committee on June 11th, 2026

Evidence of meeting #47 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was screen.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Connection between the Minister of Finance and National Revenue and Alto

Members speaking

Before the committee

François-Philippe Champagne Minister of Finance and National Revenue

von Finckenstein Commissioner, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

Aquilino Legal Counsel, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

DeMoor Director, Advisory and Compliance, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

No, it's a—

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Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

There are allegations in your question.

I encourage you to consult—

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Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

No.

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Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

You're making allegations.

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Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

Your wife works for Alto, so that's why—

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Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

You're making allegations, Mr. Hardy. I encourage you—

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Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

What allegations am I making?

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Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

You're making allegations—

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Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

Which ones?

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Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

—that aren't accurate.

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Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

Which allegations are you referring to?

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Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

I don't have to—

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Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

What is the allegation I'm making that isn't accurate?

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Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

Check with your lawyers. Check what you're doing. I'm telling you that you're making allegations. You're politicizing the work of this committee.

You're against the project. That's one thing—

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Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

No, that's not true. Stop—

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Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

The people watching you at home understand exactly what you're doing. You're against this project; you're politicizing this committee—

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Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

I'm not politicizing anything; I'm telling you a fact.

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Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

[Inaudible—Editor] because other than you—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Mr. Hardy and Minister—

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Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

—that's not how people saw it, Mr. Hardy.

I have been in the House for 12 years now—

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

Well done, but I'm talking to you about a fact.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Let me deal with this.

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

You're not even trying to deal with this.

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Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

There's a matter of politics, and there's a matter of ethics.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Hold on a minute. I don't need five chairs on the other side—