That leads to the larger question that ministers are elected and responsible to the citizens at large, and that's something I'm very comfortable with, actually.
DFO's expansion, Dr. Schindler, across Canada started in 1999. As somebody who's had a career in fisheries management, I recall that the fisheries in prairie Canada, for example, where my work was, were in pretty good shape, by and large. One does wonder what the value-added of the expanded DFO habitat programs was.
Could you comment on that?