Exactly. How much oxygen is being removed from the Fraser River from the silt that flows down from farmers' fields, and how effective are the mitigation factors that are foisted on the people who've farmed the land for 100 years, as one example?
I thought Mr. Hazell's comment about saving Exxon a fortune because delaying the Mackenzie Valley pipeline 40 years got us to the point where natural gas is only worth $2 a gigajoule—