Ms. Silas, I'm sorry; the time is up.
I think it's fair to observe as well that in terms of the thrust of the comments Madam Lysack is putting on the record today, those same comments have been put on the record for a number of years, many of them, certainly back to the early 1990s. On balance it is important to understand that too, to put it in context.
We'll continue with Mr. St-Cyr. You have five minutes, sir.