Just before I go on to Ronald, what I want to get at here is this. To say one is in favour of and recognizes the importance of health care in our economy is fine, but we are facing hard choices. I don't think it's possible on the one hand to say we think all the surplus, $13 billion, should go against the debt and that all these cutbacks should go into effect and no further expenditure should go into improving our educational and health systems to make us more competitive. We have to make some hard choices. That's what I'm trying to get at here, Ronald—and then maybe some of the others.
On September 26th, 2006. See this statement in context.