I want to concentrate on BIOTEC and the Partnership Group for Science and Engineering, to clear up.... One of the questioners, I think Monsieur Paquette, was asking questions, and I think I was getting to my answer, but I'm not sure. I want to allow both of you maybe to answer the question.
Mr. Brenders, when you were speaking, you said there's not enough money for the end product, commercialization, or just finishing the portion at the end when you're ready to sell the final product, or at the end part of the research, if I'm not mistaken. And then, Mr. Rutherford, in your presentation, you said, “There's a lot of money out there, but we can't seem to access it.”
Can you just correct me, if I misunderstood? At the end, when you were replying to Mr. Paquette, you were saying that there is money, but it's just in the final stages. I want to understand what we're to try to recommend, because I would like to simplify what we recommend, and to know whether we're talking about the same thing. I understand it's not the same subject matter but that we're more or less talking about the same type of reasoning.