Thank you.
At this point, I want to go to Claire Morris on the issue of indirect costs. I think it may be misinterpreted. You heard John McKay say that we've already put in as much as anyone has a right to expect. You seem to be saying that a lot of the research done by universities is a benefit to the country. For example, you cite the participation of the University of Laval and the University of Manitoba in the Arctic Net Centre of Excellence, which has a lot to do with climate change and the impact on the north and on Inuit communities. In another example, the Liberal government in the past cut back drastically on things like research into drugs, saying, don't worry, the universities can do it.
What you're saying, and I'd like some clarification, is that this is important work for the country, and that the government has an obligation to help meet the indirect costs.