First of all, it's a question of attitudes that are not just government attitudes. We have attitudes with parents, we have attitudes with students, and we have attitudes with respect to people who are in the working community.
One of the things certainly the government could do to address this is to support and acknowledge programs that are directed towards the kinds of institutions that I am representing here, and to speak to the issue that one size does not fit all. We are not going to be able to be competitive on a national basis if we don't recognize this.
So when you're hearing from my member here, Mr. Shaw, talking about investing in programs that will leverage the training of apprentices, when we're talking about building infrastructure for schools like polytechnics, those kinds of concrete approaches need to be endorsed, because they will be the outcomes that actually reflect the change in attitude--and likewise with regard to research and the type of research that we're supporting or not supporting currently, and specifically with relation to applied research.
I think those areas would actually show that there is a change in attitudes, matched by actual actions.