Thank you. I'm afraid I have to cut you off. I'd like to talk to you privately about these things later, but I don't have much time and I have one other question.
The other thing that's really important to me, and I think to our party, is access. It's hard to distinguish between the diametrically opposed cases made about the foundation by our two recent witnesses. I'll ask a simple question to Ms. Aziz and, if there's time, to Messrs. Dale and Bernstein.
There's limited money. Let's suppose you had a choice of either a dedicated transfer to provinces or direct federal funding, not both. Bear in mind that federal governments have trouble getting provinces to do what we want them to do. So don't assume that the dedicated transfer would be watertight in terms of doing what you want to do or what we want to do in terms of scholarships or support for students, because provinces have their own ideas and we have limited control over them, as we see in health care and other areas.
Given that reality, which would you prefer, and if you prefer the federal funding, what kind of federal funding?
Can the millennium group be fixed? You say abolish them. Maybe they can be fixed.