It may be an educational process, but it's also a political issue. We have dealt with a decade of first Liberal and now Conservative governments that have chosen to put the money that's available by way of surplus, all of it, against the debt or to corporate tax cuts. It is a matter of priorities. We continue to ignore a $59 billion infrastructure deficit in this country, and we're paying the price now.
That's not my question, sorry.
I'll get to it. This is my time, Mr. Turner, just hold your horses.