How do I counter that? Well, I think that's ideological.
I mean, the fact is that the women's groups listed on our brief serve women on a daily basis in this province. Transition House Association of Nova Scotia—one of my colleagues is here today—and the women's centres in Nova Scotia mainly deal with issues affecting women at the very grassroots level in rural communities in this province.
I should say that a lot of the issues we're talking about and a lot of the cuts we're talking about on the CAP sites, skills learning, and literacy will not only disproportionately affect women but will also disproportionately affect rural Nova Scotians across the board.
To say these groups, which have been funded to carry out this kind of work, are ideological is an insult not only to the groups and the people who are working their butts off trying to do the work for less and less money every year, but also to the people they serve.