He was there originally when the negotiations were going on. Apparently, from what he told us, when the amounts were reduced—if you want to call it that—for post-secondary, the federal government didn't really reduce the amounts; they put them into these research councils and the foundations, because the university requested direct money. If you put all the totals together, if you add all the amounts together in post-secondary, you'll see there hasn't been a decrease; there's actually been an increase. That's because the universities had requested money directly.
Are you aware of that?