Okay, I understand that.
Last year, the Liberal government introduced indirect costs at 40% in the economic update, and it didn't pass the House of Commons. At that time we had a lot of direct investments for students. It didn't pass the House of Commons, but it was brought in. So we recognize the need for the 40%, and I think we need to get to it.
When we did this, a lot of people came to see me from the various foundations concerned with heart, stroke, and cancer. They said paying the indirect costs made it harder to attract good research. Do you have any thoughts on this? Should they be included as well?